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Post by cujo on Oct 8, 2008 12:28:11 GMT -5
Cujo, the topic is GPS computers not power meters.
Your just promoting a product that your sponsored by. The IBike has horrible reviews and it has been proven very inaccurate; please don't talk someone into wasting 300-400 dollars.
Clint,
When were these reviews you read? Perhaps the first generation had some problems but we are way past that now. I also remember power taps bitting the dust with every rain drop back in the day.
I tell you that it is for real. I will put $1000 bucks on the fact that my Ibike goews blow for blow with my wireless powertap. Or the Quark I used this year of the $5000 dollar wireless srm that we had at camp.
Have you seen one or even used it? Will you put up $1000 buck to prove it is inaccurate?
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Post by Scott Baker on Oct 8, 2008 12:44:59 GMT -5
I use the GTC software and Motionbased both. I actually keep a training log in an Excel workbook and I transcribe the info from GTC to to Excel. I subscribed to Mb for a year to see how it would work as my training log. So long story short, I use them both. It does create a little extra work. Don't go more than a full charge cycle before uploading to Mb, as after 10-12 hours of riding the amount of data to upload starts getting overwritten on the Edge. I do each weekly.
I have not decided if I will keep using Mb, but one of the cool things is that you can output a Google Earth file from it. That is so cool I can hardly contain my geekish ways.
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Post by TC on Oct 8, 2008 12:49:51 GMT -5
Is the iBike Mac compatible? I actually really like the concept behind it. If it only runs on a PC, it is a no go for me. I don't PC.
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Post by cujo on Oct 8, 2008 14:34:49 GMT -5
The Ibike works both ways. The software was written for mac and then converted to run for PC. John Hammond the owner is a MAC freak.
The Ibike has auto pause and autosleep. The auto pause is an older concept I believe Adovcet was the first to have it on the advocet 30 or 35 . It actually makes info more accurate because the info stops when you stop.
As to the Ibike it works on the same wireless technology as the garmin. This appears to be the standard. If you want power I would recommend it. The whole system wireless run 770 (wireless) or so. The upkeep is almost nothing. I have had lots of problem with SRM keeping the sensor and magnets aligned. My ergomo was pretty nice and oncw dialed it was pretty accurate compared to the powertap. I do have to say the Ibike has been closer to the powertap than the ergomo though and at half the price.
The best feature is the software you can really manipulate it. The I bike does not have the GPS track my ride though that is pretty cool.
I can say having used a HAC4. THE Ibike is nothing like that. The Hac4 was not very accurate at all unless there was no wind or you were going up hill at a steady rate.
The ibike has wind ports and accelerometers that drasticly improve accuracy. The accelerometers have gotten so sensitive I can pick up where I pushed down on the bars hard and made them flex.
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Post by TC on Oct 8, 2008 14:59:28 GMT -5
I'll bite. So you think the Pro III is the way to go? The site says the Sport does not download to computer, but you can upgrade. Any idea how much the upgrade is, I couldn't find a price. I have been interested in the iBike since the first model came out, I was just waiting for a generation, or two, of improvements.
The wife does not like complicated bike computers, will that be a concern?
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Post by cujo on Oct 8, 2008 15:10:02 GMT -5
It is pretty simple to use. Just one button really. Deffinitly get the newest version gen3. I am not sure what they are calling it officially.
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Post by cujo on Oct 8, 2008 15:31:41 GMT -5
I just called the owner to make sure. You want the ibike aero gen III.
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Post by TC on Oct 9, 2008 11:22:22 GMT -5
I talked to the owner a minute ago. I purchased an Aero Gen III. Thanks Joey! I'll let you know how it works out.
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Post by TC on Nov 14, 2008 18:17:43 GMT -5
The iBike Aero 3rd Generation model came in the mail today. After looking at the reader's forums at www.ibikeforum.com I can see that most, if not all of the complaints of the previous versions have been rectified. Now, if Christmas would just come. It is a present and can't be used till then. The set-up of this model is quite simple, so it should be really easy and fast to put it on the bike of someone who has a Powertap for comparison. Also, when used in combination with the powertap it can actually give you an accurate CdA, in real time. Wow! now that's really cool, like having your own private wind tunnel. Used alone, you have to stop peddling for a moment to get a snapshot CdA. Comes with training peaks software for analysis, should be fun for the whole family.
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Post by joet on Nov 17, 2008 21:07:52 GMT -5
Hey Scott, is there any way to transfer and print gps data (maps and elevation profiles) on the 305 without a motion base subscription?? Is there any software that does this? thanks joe
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Post by Scott Baker on Nov 17, 2008 22:13:30 GMT -5
You can export rides from the Garmin Training Center software that comes with it to .tcx format. In Windows, you can export individual rides. On the Mac, you can only export the entire database (which sucks). I got an e-mail from Garmin that seemed to indicate that the MotinBased service will be free at some point in the near future. The problem in getting the .tcx files to a program like Google Earth, they data must be converted. There is a site the does this at wwwoe-files.de/oefiles/gmaps/tcx_to_kml_htmlThere is another at wwwgpsies.com/upload.do;jsessionid=DF0AA1F613994E6FC6ADB34FC4246686?uploadMode=convert. Just Google "convert tcx to kml" (without the quotes) to find several.
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Post by joet on Nov 18, 2008 6:37:16 GMT -5
thanks joe
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Post by TC on Dec 24, 2008 19:51:11 GMT -5
Jennifer and I have both unwrapped our new powermeters, and used them a couple of times. They perform as advertised. Lots of really cool options here, and any new goodies that they add are just a firmware update away. I'll post a full report when I have some miles on it.
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Post by dobovedo on Jun 14, 2009 0:29:47 GMT -5
Hey Scott, is there any way to transfer and print gps data (maps and elevation profiles) on the 305 without a motion base subscription?? Is there any software that does this? thanks joe Dredging up an old question. Check out sporttracks www.zonefivesoftware.com/SportTracks/It's got a kinda steep learning curve and no help files, but has the right price. It's 'donationware'. Use it free - pay something for it if you want. Very thorough program, is open to 3rd party plugins, and has an active forum to help you figure it out. You can import directly into it. Satellite views of routes are cool. Graphs of elevation/workout/etc. are kinda basic and klunky to use, but there are some really neat features. Again... it's free. FWIW, I use a Garmin Forerunner 305 since I'm in multisport. Can swap from a wristband to bike mount in seconds. Love it. Doesn't have the mapping features of the Edge series, but I'm more interested in looking at data afterwards than using it enroute. Although now that I'm moving to completely unknown territory...
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